Here is the info from K&N
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| Author: | Lou [ Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Spin on oil filter |
Does anybody know if a know Casper Labs 90 degree oil filter housing will fit on an O360 in a Thorp T-18? |
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| Author: | Bill Williams [ Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
Don't think these are apples to apples. The Lycoming oil filter adapter has a built in Vernitherm and car adapters don't. Also would question the bolt pattern. I would think you would need a Lycoming oil filter adapter, a remote mount kit for a car that has 3/4" pipe threads. The car adapter would screw on to back of the Lycoming adapter eliminating the filter, mount the remote filter adapter on the firewall and connect with Aeroquip hoses, install a cheap car filter (FL1) after all you can save 10 dollars and worry if the filter is going to burst. Use AC grade and be done with it. |
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| Author: | Rich Brazell [ Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
Lou: I think the Casper adapter will fit . From the pics in the Spruce catalog it appears the Casper does have the ability to accept a vernitherm valve and oil temp sensor ? When my 0-360 Aero Sport engine came it had the 90 degree adapter on it. I could not fit an oil filter on it without interferring with the engine mount. I had them send me a straight adapter and still even with a "short" Champion filter it would not clear the engine mount ? Not sure why ? I wanted to installed a remote filter so this did work out when I installed the Canton (auto) adapter (as Bill suggested) onto the straight engine adapter ( a 90 degree may also work) and ran SS braided oil line with Aero Quip fittings to my remote Canton filter. Try Mattitucks.com They have the Lycoming adapters also. RB |
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| Author: | N89BJ [ Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
Lou, My bet is on the Casper Labs NOT working. I have spent a bunch of time checking into this and ended up with an AirWolf setup. The only other option that I think might work would be one of B&C Specialties oil filter adapers. |
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| Author: | fytrplt [ Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
I use the Air Wolf and it works. Nice folks to do business with. They will be at Sun 'n Fun next week as well. |
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| Author: | Tim Brown [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
I use a K&N HP1009 spin on oil filter. Its a tight fit between the filter and engine mount but it works. I have the standard Lycoming oil filter adapter, it faces straight back out of the top of the case between the mags (O-320-E2D). A couple years ago I purchased a B&C 90 degree adapter that I never used... its for sale if anyone wants it. |
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| Author: | Lou [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
Tim, can you say the overall height of your filter? My engine came back from the shop with the factory straight filter adapter on it and the short filter. It interferes with the |
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| Author: | Tim Brown [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:58 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter | ||
Here is the info from K&N
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| Author: | Lou [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
Tim you rock! That filter should fit and it's a heavy duty racing filter with a safety wire tie so it should be fine. |
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| Author: | Rich Brazell [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
I had the same problem with the filter hitting the engine mount so I went the remote route which is what I really wanted to do. Here is a pic of my Lycoming straight filter adapter and my Race Car adapter to attach the holes to the filter/cooler. Lou: I believe several people use the K & N filter and you will hear both positive and negative comments regarding the filter. I thought about using the K & N (around $10-15 each) but looking at the cost difference when you buy a case discount of Tempest/Champion filters I went with the time trusted aviaiton filter. For a few dollars more I sleep better putting a Tempest filter (has a magnet in the can) on my zero time engine. Attachment: IMAG0002.JPG [ 430.24 KiB | Viewed 16228 times ] Attachment: IMAG0001.JPG [ 367.3 KiB | Viewed 16228 times ] The only thing I added to the Race Car adapter was drilling a safety wire hole in the brass attach bolt. RB Attachment: S-18 engine mounting, flaps, aileron,aileron trim 041.jpg [ 615.74 KiB | Viewed 16228 times ] Having the remote filter sure makes the oil changes a lot easier also ! RB |
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| Author: | Tim Brown [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
Lou wrote: Tim you rock! That filter should fit and it's a heavy duty racing filter with a safety wire tie so it should be fine. I had a look at the flow rate and pressure rating for the K&N and I was impressed....its a HEAVY DUTY filter. I bought a lot of 10 for $6 each on fleabay 
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| Author: | davem [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:19 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter | ||
The B&C and Casper Labs 90 degree oil filter adapters are virtually identical and will fit O-360s. However, you will have to modify the engine mount for the oil filter. Bill Cordoza's and my Thorps both have the same modification, which is a part round section welded in the mount tube so that it "bends" around the oil filter. Bill's has been flying that way for more than 10 years and 500 hours, mine for about a year and a half and 100 hours. I don't know if that little racing oil filter will fit under the mount tube, but if it does that would be a good solution too. Bill and I use the standard Champion aircraft oil filters. Dave M
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| Author: | davem [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
Oh, and a couple of additional notes. Both the B&C and Casper Labs adapters are set up for a vernitherm to be installed, as well as a port for an oil temperature sensor. The best part about these adapters is that when doing an oil change, you poke a little hole with a stiff scribe in the top of the oil filter, and let it drain for a few hours (I usually let it sit overnight). Then when you remove the oil filter, there is only a couple of drops of oil on the flange of the adapter--no oil getting on your engine or anything else. There is just enough so that you can take a finger and use it to lubricate the seal of the new filter you are installing. That's it. Dave M |
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| Author: | dan [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter |
I have an 0320E2D, it was manufactured in 1968, it has never been opened up as I do have the log books. All ADs have been answered through the years and it was clean when I got it. The screens are clean every time I check them and the oil between changes just does get tinted in color enough to see that it has been used, I change it every 25hrs,asper the log book entries. It has never had an oil filter,I know that someday it will have to have a top end, but at 2300 hrs the old lycasaurus still runs like a top.I hope the day it gets opened I can put it back together and have the same reliability factor that it has now. It will burn a quart give or take between changes.....Dan |
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| Author: | Lou [ Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:39 pm ] | |||
| Post subject: | Re: Spin on oil filter | |||
Thanks for all the info guys. I decided to keep it simple, and the K&N seems to be up to the job. Besides I hear
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