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Author:  Ryan Allen [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  IO-360-M1B
I know I have asked similar questions in the past, but I would like to ask another. I am seriously considering purchasing an IO-360-M1B which has the rear prop governor (the prop governer will be under the oil filter) and the horizontally mounted spin on oil filter and takes a dynofocal type 1 engine mount. Does anyone know if I will have clearance issues (between the engine and firewall) with the oil filter and/or prop governor?

Any suggestions or other issues I might have with installing this model engine on a Thorp airframe?
Also, any prop recommendations? I have placed a call to Hartzell but I am currently waiting on their response.

I thought it prudent to at least ask these questions before buying something so expensive.

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Author:  James Grahn [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
Ryan,
I'd be guessing. I do not think you will have clearance issues with the firewall. I would be more concerned about the mount. However, we have guys on this list that can make anything like that happen. Is that a parallel valve engine?
Cubes
Author:  Jim Mantyla [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
Ryan,

I have an IO-320 D1A that looks the same as what is in your picture except mine has a remote filter. The prop govoner is below where your filter is. I know that when my engine was installed a different mount was required for clearance purposes. The old dynafocal mount had a hoop and the new one is different at the top, above the mags. I will try take pictures tomorrow of both mounts.

Jim Mantyla
Author:  Lou [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
The Campion filter will most likely NOT fit. A K&N PH1009 fill fit or you can go the remote route.
Author:  Rich Brazell [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
I believe you WILL have a clearance problem with the filter and the motor mount . I know I did with my 0-360 . I did not try the K & N filter option . I just went with a remote and use Tempest filters...the LONG ones ! O0

RB
Author:  Ryan Allen [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
James
I dont know if its a parrallel valve or not. I have that question submitted to them and I am awaiting the answer. Does it matter which kind as far as fitting on the airplane, or was there something else you were thinking?

Jim and Rich,
I can handle getting a remote oil filter installed (thats good to know, thank you). That way I can stick with an aircraft oil filter, but where did you guys purchase a mount that worked for your applications?
Author:  fytrplt [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
The angle valve engine is not a great fit for the T-18. Weight and size issues.
Author:  Rich Brazell [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
Go to the NL's , they have a boat load of info on filters, adapters and remotes . As for what I did I went with the Canton Racing Products bolt on engine adapter and their remote filter housing. Solid billet aluminum and MADE IN AMERICA . Other have used the standard cast auto remote filter housing with success . I also believe there is a cast engine adapter . Both the engine and remote are FORD adapters...I think ? O0

RB
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RB
Author:  Bill Williams [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
The easiest way to tell an angle valve it has flat valve covers . Straight valve has domed covers. The picture is a straight valve,
I would think the only problem you would have with this engine is oil filter clearance. The mount fixture I have will fit it. Price is right? Buy it. It will make a Thorp perform like a tiger.
Author:  Ryan Allen [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
Bill Williams wrote:
The easiest way to tell an angle valve it has flat valve covers . Straight valve has domed covers. The picture is a straight valve,
I would think the only problem you would have with this engine is oil filter clearance. The mount fixture I have will fit it. Price is right? Buy it. It will make a Thorp perform like a tiger.


Bill, is your motor mount custom made or can I buy one off the shelf somewhere? If its an off the shelf type motor mount, what kind is it?
Author:  Bill Williams [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
It's a standard mount from classic. I copied a mount and made the fixture
Author:  Jim Mantyla [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
Ryan,

Here are pictures that show the difference in the mounts. The second is the O-320/360 mount and the first is the Io-320/360 mount. I hope this works.

Jim Mantyla

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Author:  Bill Williams [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
My mount will fit any Lyc O series, the problem would be the location of the fuel system which could be modified to fit. The mount will fit all except the rear mounted carb/injector which I modified to work on N30WW. I'll send you the ring to try, you pay shipping.
Author:  Bill Williams [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
The dynafocal ring is different only because who made it.
Author:  Ryan Allen [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IO-360-M1B
my seller took his motor off the market. I believe he decided he could get more for it than what we had agreed on. So, if anyone has a lead on a worthwhile 360 engine, please let me know. I would prefer to buy an engine prop combo, but I'll take what I can get.
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