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flychris
 Post subject: Electric flaps. Help!
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:32 pm 
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Ok so I put in some new parts pics to come tomorrow with everything updated. Problem is I need to get rid of the flap handle anyone have a how to on adding electric flaps?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:44 pm 
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Here is an outside shot with the new wheel pants and the 360 and CS prop on. Hope to run this week! Sun N Fun is the goal.... Might not have all the pretty details done but it will be flying.
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Bill Williams
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:07 am 
Google "Firgelliauto" search for FA-240-S-12-3 linear actuator.
Remove your old flap assembly. Behind the seat bulkhead under the baggage compartment add a bracket to support the linear actuator. The flap cables will need to be shortened and wiring for the motor added. This actuator has built in limit switches.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:40 am 
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Here are a couple of visuals using the actuator Bill mentioned. Makes for a very simple and clean install in just about every way.


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stug
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:21 pm 
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Looking at the specifications for that actuator it weighs 2 pounds am i right to suggest that by removing the flap handle and associated mounting then there is likely to be no or very little overall weight penalty going electric?


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fytrplt
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:42 pm 
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Correct! And you free up the tunnel to provide an entry step.

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Brent Schultz
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:57 pm 
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On the Thorp site in the questions and answers is says use the 2" actuator, but I see a 3" actuator discussed. Does it matter which one is used?

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leewwalton
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:02 pm 
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Brent you want the FA-150-S-12-2 (2 inch) actuator.

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Brent Schultz
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:35 pm 
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Ok, got it.


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Bill Williams
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:55 pm 
The 2" travel will yield about 30 degrees flap.


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stug
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:11 pm 
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Yes The original T18 drawing -742 shows the travel required as approx 2.8 inches, So llimiting the travel to 2 inches with the accuator effectively removes the 3rd stage of flap and thus avoiding the possible "bunt" issue.
The -150 accuator gives 150pounds force but is there a need to go to the stronger one as mentioned in The earlier post, the suggested -240 actuator has 200 pounds of force but moves fractionally slower?


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Bill Williams
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:19 pm 
The flap handle is about 12" long with the pivot point about 2". Using the handle in flight requires about 8 pounds of force to extend the flaps, thus the 150 lbs. actuator should get the job done. The other requirement is up/down should take about 5/7 seconds. The 150 linear actuator fits this requirement. YOu are correct the 250 is about twice as slow,


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:17 pm 
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My thorp has roll trim built into the flap lever. Do most have this? Do you lose it with the electric flaps?

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Correct. You will lose the roll trim function which is really a method to "drag" a flap. Most of us with electric trim have a dollar sized aileron trim tab installed.

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Rich Brazell
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Lou: Put in the electric aileron trim. You will be much happier ! The only reason i keep the flap/trim knob in is because it fills the hole until I can put in electric flaps...probably next annual ?

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