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Rich Brazell
 Post subject: Brake linings
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:56 pm 
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Just ordered a set of replacement Matco brake linings from Spruce, to have on hand when the current set wears down. I got them anticipating a possible change after the 40 hours of Phase I testing. Upon examing the new replacement linings (after the last few posts showing a set of linings worn down to the rivets), I discovered that they have a wear marker built into them, making it possible to inspect the linings w/o having to remove the caliper to check the wear. [;)] It looks like if just a bit of the wear marker is left the lining should be just above the rivet. This wear marker is not on the original linings that came with the Cleveland brakes. May not be on other replacment linings ? The linings also came with instructions on how to "break in" the new linings, something I had not really thought about.

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 Post subject: Brake linings
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:05 am 
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Hope you mean Rapco. Matco is an entirely different system. You should get a couple hundred hours out of a brake pad change.

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Rich Brazell
 Post subject: Brake linings
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You are correct. Should have said RAPCO not MATCO. Wasn't sure on the wear rate of the pads.
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Tim Brown
 Post subject: Brake linings
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:22 am 
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Anybody know the proper torque for reassembling the brakes with new linings?

For the two bolts that hold the lining plates to the caliper body (I know they get safety wired too).


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:15 am 
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Tim,
Just make em snug ... not worth getting tied up in torque values. In my neck of the woods safety wire is no longer considered mandatory, but since you have the holes better safe than sorry. I put safety wire through them anyhow.

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 Post subject: Brake linings
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:01 am 
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Brake Assembly Bolt Torque Matl in-lb N


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 Post subject: Brake linings
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:30 am 
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Tim;

I usually tighten all fasteners until they strip, and then back off one turn.

Just kidding! Lee's advice is the way I would do it.

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Tim Brown
 Post subject: Brake linings
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:14 pm 
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Thanks all.....I usually subscribe to Dick's theory of tightening so I thought I better ask.

looks like 75 to 80 inch lbs :)


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Tim Brown
 Post subject: Brake linings
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:56 am 
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last post on this one ....

I'm glad I checked on the torque, that 80 in/lbs came up really fast!!!!

I'm 110% sure I would have twisted the bolt off if I had just tightened till it felt right (usally a ft/lb over the breaking strength :)

Might be wise to write those numbers down and use a torque wrench if you are as ham-fisted as I am.


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Rich Brazell
 Post subject: Brake linings
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Speaking of writing down the torque numbers, I put my AD prop bolt torque # (along with the bolt/hole locations) on the front of the crush plate with a large tip Sharpie...I think the DAR was impressed. Might work for other locations ? Would save having to track down and find those pesky numbers !

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Victor Thompson
 Post subject: Brake linings
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:28 pm 
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Tim: You might want to make a copy of these references: Standard bolt torques, references to hardware,..

http://www.maxwellpropulsion.com/PDF/torquespecs.pdf
http://www.experimentalaircraft.info/ar ... ding-1.php
http://exp-aircraft.com/library/alexande/hardware.html
http://compass.seacadets.org/pdf/nrtc/an/14014_ch5.pdf
http://rgl.faa.gov/regulatory_and_guida ... r%2007.pdf

You might consider adding a page of quick references torques to your technical log. Good tips on the sharpie pen notes. Cheers

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Tim Brown
 Post subject: Brake linings
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Thanks Vic,
I beat you to it and did that but its great advice since I'm sure I will be searching for that info the next time I need to change them. ;)


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Victor Thompson
 Post subject: Brake linings
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:23 pm 
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Can never find a manual for this or the other thing, but I have my blue copy of aircraft hardware standards beside my torque wrench in the tool box.

Came across a couple of Cleveland manuals while not specific do provide some basic guidance.

So now that the Peg has a hockey team whacha calling the Jets,...

Hope this helps.

http://www.parker.com/literature/Aircra ... SG0001.pdf

http://www.cessnat50.org/media/manuals_ ... veland.pdf

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Tim Brown
 Post subject: Brake linings
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:33 pm 
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Fabulous references.....

Do we have a place to make "stickies" out of those posts?

Thanks a zillion.


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